thanks,celadon,the joker,& trevor,for your answers.fetid was correct.as for the boat question,i could not accept the \'outboard or onboard answers,as one letter had to be a letter\"I\".i was thinking in a construction sense-as in \"inbuild\",theoutboard would have meant \"hull\" or mast,etc,rather than a people orientated question,but thanks to all of you for replying-i appreciate it,cheery-o!,krisstoff.