Hi Fran
Are you sure of your letters? If not a possibility is MASS being a crowd and also a church service where a portion of the worshipper's time is spent kneeling.
Joker
thanks joker. feel so silly. gross not groat ans clue ( another four to this number would be vulgar) ??? relates to fractions i suppose 144 being 12 squared. so 148?? i see jim still awaits ans 1d. see xword forum 30/07/09 24287. thanks again.