Good God, def, get a grip! Why have a pop at one of Sally's nice people. And I dont think I am. What samak proposed, and buckets of us agreed to was, "no clue, no letters, no help". For instance, folk come on the forum asking, "What is 24 across in DT?". Unless you have the paper, and I for one wouldnt look at it, how are we meant know clue/letters/and letters known? Think on!