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17down,scotland's first king mr dodd?is it kenneth? 21acc a chiropodist'sdud kind of joke,-o---,?13down,lacking affection,faith and hope on their own,-o-e-e-s,i have 4 answers that fit this one,hopeless,loneness,loveless and soleless,need help, anyone?

Think 21 might be corny

13d love less (faith, hope & love bible)

Kenneth Mac Alpin (843 - 858)was the first king to unite the kingdoms of Dalriada in the west and the Picts and as such is regarded as the first king of Scotland.

many thanks sudokulover,and thank you too pipesmoker for the info on kenneth mac alpin,i found that very interesting,you're a star!xx