I know Jolan's 5, and usually have a go at it, not always very successfully! Nobody wants a sterile environment where you can't have a little fun, but some of the idiots who post on here prbably shouldn't be allowed near a computer. And I hate the sort of " don't help so- snd-so, they're lazy/stupid/morons" (insert your own term of abuse), as it is so unneccessary. the whole point of this forum is to give help to people, and if soem of the posts stray into the wild and wonderful then that's fine, but why be abusive?