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paulhabershon

30th May 2023, 07:19
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In team playing left half, powerful winger (6)

Solution: CASTLE

Mentioning this to deplore the perpetuation of the chess rook being called a castle, unfortunately validated by Chambers and Collins (among others probably). It's the definition in the above clue, based on its starting position on a corner square of the chess board. I doubt many players think of it as a winger, though it is indeed the second most powerful piece after the queen.

Comments on the Times Snitch blog echo my thoughts. Often the 'last one in'. You could, however, admire the setter's deception where 'winger' usually implies a bird.
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jono

30th May 2023, 07:52
Chambers does helpfully explain that to call a rook a castle is “informal and childish”. No such qualification in Collins.

Chambers also gives the etymon for the chess meaning of rook as the Persian word “rukh”, defined separately as…

“An enormous bird described in Arabian legend, strong enough to carry off an elephant (also rok, ruc or rukh /rook/)”
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chrise

30th May 2023, 07:57
PaulH
I take your point, but why then do you "castle" by moving the king towards the rook, then putting the rook on the other side of it?
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jono

30th May 2023, 08:03
I was thinking the same Chris. I read that back in the 14th/15th centuries the “castling” move was called a “king’s leap” which seems an altogether better term.
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jazzgirl

30th May 2023, 08:17
On a chess forum, it shows Rook comes from the Persian term Rukh meaning chariot as this was the piece in predecessor games of chess in India. These Indian chariets had large walled structures on them, more like a fortification.
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chrise

30th May 2023, 08:35
btw PaulH
A clue in today's Guardian you might like
Scandinavian, Sicilian, Vienna, English, and Nimzo openigs (4)
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paulhabershon

30th May 2023, 09:10
Hi Chrise @6

I've solved it. I wonder if you get my reference if I say it reminds me, appropriately, of 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue'?
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paulhabershon

30th May 2023, 09:19
Chrise @3 and Jono @4

Castling is indeed a proper chess term, but the fact remains that the piece which resembles a castle is always called a rook, just as the one resembling a horse is always called a knight, except in jest. The English notation is R for rook (it's never been C) and N (formerly Kt) for knight.
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